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dancefloorlandmine) wrote2009-07-28 01:55 pm
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[Poll] Streetdate
Inspired by the sight of one of my colleagues on his lunchbreak¹, a poll ...
[Poll #1436208]
Clarifications
Male/female refers to gender of identification/appearance.
The "Have you ... got ..." and "Did they ... get ..." questions should be taken to referring to "in the same period of interaction", rather than anything that happened thereafter or on successive meetings.
The final "yes/no" question should be read as 'In general, do you ...'.
¹ Admittedly, he has the advantage of being 6ft4, handsome and apparently having shares in Charisma Inc.
[Poll #1436208]
Clarifications
Male/female refers to gender of identification/appearance.
The "Have you ... got ..." and "Did they ... get ..." questions should be taken to referring to "in the same period of interaction", rather than anything that happened thereafter or on successive meetings.
The final "yes/no" question should be read as 'In general, do you ...'.
¹ Admittedly, he has the advantage of being 6ft4, handsome and apparently having shares in Charisma Inc.
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I do talk to people sometimes in pubs or on transport to be friendly, but never anything more than that.
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You haven't given all the possible options so I went for the nearest ones.
1. I ticked ignored, though not strictly ignored, or more I ignored him, because after chatting for 10 minutes I went off him!
I've got a couple of phone numbers in the past, neither went anywhere.
2. I ticked "more" because although it wasn't a romantic encounter I have met one of my closest friends in the world randomly. He said initially he aimed to chat me up, but realised we're utterly uncompatible - I'm really glad he tried though!
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As for random chatting, it happens all the time. Not so much when I was living in London, but in Greece I have random (and some times very personal) discussions all the time, as in, pretty much every other time I go out.
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I've also had 2 marriage proposals in non-social situations. One was a foreign guy in a cafe, he sat next to me and next thing I know he was wanting to marry me - though I suspect he was after a citizenship. It was surreal, but the following me after I ran out bit was scary. The second was a client who asked me to marry him in Court (not what I'd call social!).
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The last guy who did it caught me on a morning when I wasn't feeling too happy anyway. I was on Tottenham Ct Road on my way to he gym one Saturday, and he stopped and said hello. I said hello and walked round him - or tried to - and the bastard jumped back in front of me to try to force me to stop for him. When I tried to walk round him he did a faux jokey goalkeeper jumping from side to side thing to stop me. I fucking exploded and told him to go away. He said 'But I like you!' as if this should make me suddenly like him. 'Well, I hate you,' I yelled back. And again, as I finally managed to get round him: 'but I like you!' 'JUST FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!' I daintily rejoindered.
Truth to tell, the level of rudeness here was unusual for me, but I feel perfectly justified. It was simply years and years of pent-up utter rage coming out about people doing this. If they take a refusal qickly, it's OK. It's when they don't and start walking after you speaking such blatantly medacious platitudes as 'I'm just being friendly!' or 'I just want to know your name/phone number' that it really fucking ruins my day and makes me want to gouge their eyes out. I went through a phase of offering people a quick kiss if they'd only leave me alone, but that failed more often than it worked, obviously. The only solution if people don't take 'no' as an answer first time round is rudeness. And then, of course, they'll get all indignant about that too. Can't fucking win.
But then, maybe some people like being chatted up randomly, and I guess it must work sometimes or people wouldn't do it. However, here's my advice if anyone's thinking of trying it: proceed with extreme caution.
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I find people fascinating.
However, it has got me into trouble on occasion as I do not mean to be flirtatious given that I have a long term partner and stuff...but I can't resist getting to know a stranger!
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Talking to people in the street is wholly un British, unless you're asking for the time/directions etc. I like standard British reserve in this sense and think trying to chat people up who are walking along the street is prima facie fucking rude.
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I still strike up conversations these days, but with the motive of having a conversation, nothing more.
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(Happy ending: two or three years later, still being friends, we did get together. And *umpty*mumble* years on from that, are still together...)
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I was flattered but not interested in both cases, and they went away...
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There may have been instances other than this but this is the one that sticks in my memory.
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The last time I chatted to a stranger outside of a social situation was at Tropical World on my birthday but I've also gotten to know people who I often stand at the same bus stop with.
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I suspect I'm more talkative than a lot of Londoners - growing up in a small village in the North East it was much more normal to talk to random people because everyone sort of knew each other anyway. So I will exchange pleasantries about the weather with strangers at bus stops etc quite happily.
As for chatting someone up, no - though that doesn't stop me staring openmouthed at some jaw-droppingly gorgeous creature that's crossed my path.
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"Ooh, sorry" (shy smiliness)
"No - seriously! What was that about?!! Have you had a night out or something?" (code for "are you pissed as a fart, my friend?")
"Ooh sorry..." (smiley smiley, hand shyly in front of face...)
"Look, mate...you really need to be careful, you know? I'm just saying...be a bit more careful, yeah?"
And off I walked home. I thought immediately of this post, of course.
Tch. I think it's good to point out to my male friends that this sort of thing happens probably more often than you all think, simply because men will never do it when a woman is with a man, whether partner or friend ...which means you don't see it happening to your female friends. Just sayin'...
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It could be that there are simply more men of those cultures who find me attractive, but if I'm totally honest, I don't think that's true. I suspect it's simply more acceptable in those cultures to randomly approach women on the street. My thinking on this is that there are plenty of white/European men who seem to find me attractive, but although some of them do do this (the guy in Blackhorse Rd station tonight, for example, was white English), you'd expect many more of them to do it, proportionately, than actually do if there were no cultural difference in the attitude to this particular behaviour.
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I'd never dream of stopping an attractive woman in the street...
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I wouldn't mind if it went:
- Hey, I'm interested
- I'm flattered, but not interested
- Oh, okay, good day
But I find people (has always been men in my experience) are - very often - so bloody persistent and won't take no for an answer. It drives me nuts. Sometimes people freak me out (e.g. following me, grabbing at me (one guy grabbed my rucksack to keep me from walking off after I'd said I was in a hurry), telling me they want to marry someone like me, begging for my number ("I humble myself before you" was one of the phrases he used)).
I like engaging with people and (sometimes) random convo, but aagh!
And I hate when people are so persistent that the only responses left to me are ignoring them (that's the only situation under which I ignore people chatting me up) or being rude to them.
Ho hum
In the past I would sometimes give my number to people so they would leave me alone and then just not pick up when they called; but I don't do that any more.