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Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 11:43 am
Right, looks like I'll be scoring the lyrics quiz on Thursday or Friday, which gives you a few days to have a go.

In the meantime, I'll try to get around to scanning the pics from the last Dead and Buried - hopefully before this one. And also working on a lyrics quiz on which people should be able to get reasonable scores (although there have been some surprising hits and misses on the one above).

Schedule
Tue - eve: At home. Doing washing up, revision,1 and suchlike domestic tasks.
Wed - eve: MSc lecture and revision
Thu - eve: Going out for a drink with Kitty
Fri - eve: Quite possibly Dead and Buried
Sat - day: Board gaming, as arrange by [livejournal.com profile] thecesspit. All welcome - see his LJ for details.
Sat - eve: Party in East London
Sun - day: Recovering and garden pottering, with probably revision
Sun - eve: Clarets, anyone?
Mon - eve: Date - but need to sort details

So, looking like another full week again.

1 With apologies to [livejournal.com profile] valkyriekaren for the use of the 'Oxford comma'
Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 04:05 am (UTC)
The latter: an Oxford comma is used when the penultimate thing on the list has an "and" in it, to avoid confusion.
Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 04:07 am (UTC)
Really? I always thought it was just the comma before the last item in a list, which some people don't use!
*scurries off to re-read Eats, Shoots, and Leaves*
Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 04:11 am (UTC)
From the Economist Style Guide:
Do not put a comma before and at the end of a sequence of items unless one of the items includes another and. Thus The doctor suggested an aspirin, half a grapefruit and a cup of broth. But he ordered scrambled eggs, whisky and soda, and a selection from the trolley. But American usage is different; see Part II.
and
Americans often put a comma before the and: eggs, bacon, potatoes, and cheese. The British usually write eggs, bacon, potatoes and cheese.

Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 04:16 am (UTC)
"heh" I can't really take grammatical advice seriously form a source which fails to put the "and" in quotation marks in that first sentence...
This and this back up what I thought about the Oxford comma, and suggest that Simon's original use was correct (at least as far as the OUP is concerned, and that's good enough for me!)!
Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 04:18 am (UTC)
My bad re: the last of inverted commas. The original gets around it by formatting differently. I should have done the same.
Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 05:20 am (UTC)
The doctor suggested an aspirin, half a grapefruit and a cup of broth. But he ordered scrambled eggs, whisky and soda, and a selection from the trolley.

That has a whiff of Ian Fleming to it. Sounds like Commander Bond recuperating from another spell of homoerotic espionage excesses...
Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 04:12 am (UTC)
Actually, it seems to vary. I've just done some more googling, and other sites say that it is any serial comma, but that the instance I originally quoted is the only one that everyone agrees is acceptable (rather than just the Americans).
Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 04:12 am (UTC)
That is what I thought too.
Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 04:11 am (UTC)
Hmm... are you sure? The canonical argument in favour of the Oxford comma ("To my parents, Ayn Rand and God" -- a hypothetical book dedication) no such specification is made.

Some web refs:

http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutother/oxfordcomma

http://alt-usage-english.org/excerpts/fxabandc.html

http://www.quinion.com/words/qa/qa-oxf1.htm

But these are only web refs and my grammar is poor. I don't use them myself but have no strong feelings.

Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 04:15 am (UTC)
Yeah, I've been googling too and I'm less sure than I was.

I was always taught that it was used to avoid the and... and compound, but it may be that I was taught that becuase the idea of a serial comma for any other reason was completely beyond the pale!
Tuesday, May 4th, 2004 04:23 am (UTC)
I think I was taught the same as you actually -- don't put a comma before that last and unless you really, really need to. But (as I said) my grammar is awful.